Curse

Farthest Point · Aug 01, 2006, 10:54 AM // 10:54

Why is everyone whining about the cop build? There is so many ways to beat it. EoE bomb pwns it in a second. Also smite ball pwns it. Not to mention malstrom which completely shuts it down. You guys need to spend more time thinking and less time whining

Paperfly · Aug 01, 2006, 12:39 PM // 12:39

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Not to mention malstrom which completely shuts it down.

Have you actually looked at the area of a Maelstrom effect? It's only effective for those nasty Ice Imps because they Brain Freeze you first, and that's not really viable for most PVP characters.

...Never mind that it's a pretty soft counter. Bringing in a marginal skill which also doesn't really do much to stop the build you're bringing it in against isn't too sound a strategy.

Spura · Aug 01, 2006, 01:10 PM // 13:10

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Originally Posted by Quid Pro Quo

D/Mo and D/A aren't THAT great. My warrior could take their hits when they were alone. I really doubt that Dervishes will make better tanks.. the only thing that needs to be nerfed is the CoP build.

But if you are going to call out Dervish then you need to call out Paragons as well. They were even more powerful in the right hands. Too bad they got overshadowed.

I think they will make wonderful tanks even if they nerf recharges so they won't spam aoe enchants all the time. They will be still able to get some monsters around them, and use scythe aoe attacks to farm quickly. If their defensive abilities are lacking(and I don't think they are) they can still grab some block stances from secondary, or armor buffs from ele or whatever. Hell I can farm trolls with assassin. Takes me about a minute to kill that big group in the cave. I reckon any nerf to mysticism energy gain and aoe enchantment recharges will hardly break them as far as pve tanking goes.

Yes indeed Paragons don't get mentioned much. The thing that could be deemed overpowered is mainly spear and spear mastery. That lightning spear thing needs a longer recharge and it also needs a bit lower damage bonuses on some skills, as many currently have bonuses up to +42 which is about as much as executioner attack. Command is IMO the weakest attribute, leadership is OK, motivation is good.

WasAGuest · Aug 01, 2006, 01:36 PM // 13:36

PvE event is probably next; but if I recall players could still PvP with the new builds in the PvE beta... not completely fair but oh well... we'll live